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Monday, February 13, 2017

They Don't Make Them Like They Used To, Part 3: 1982 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 1 and 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 17

This is part three of a three part series where I walk through a few different bottlings of vintage National Distillers bourbon to see what the fuss around them is all about. To recap, here is the full lineup:
  • 1986 National Distillers Bourbon deLuxe, NAS, 40%
  • 1989 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Red Shield, NAS, 43%
  • 1948 National Distillers Old Taylor Bottled in Bond, 6 years, 50%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond, 8 years, 50%
  • 1982 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 1, NAS, 57%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 17, NAS, 57%
Part One covered some rather low end bottom shelf bottles and the results were no better or worse than bourbons than you can find on the bottom shelf today. Part Two stepped things up with the much more coveted age stated bottle in bond variants, one of which was a stinker but the other was really quite nice. We've covered the low end, we've covered age stated, so now let's find out how a bump in proof treats their products. 
Also worth mentioning again: With a lot of these old bourbons there is a familiarity to them - some combination of lush mouthfeel, older richer oak, and other notes that I can't really describe so I just end up calling it a dusty note. I don't literally mean it tastes like dust, I'm specifically referencing that familiar combo of attributes.

1982 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 1

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No Age Statement; 57% ABV; Lot 1; Thanks to /u/pork_bastard for the sample.
The nose is crazy dense with classic high rye bourbon notes and is the richest thus far which is no surprise given the high proof. The rye spice notes are cranked up here compared to all the others as well. The taste is a honey butterscotch bomb with dusty old wood and dry baking spices. It has sweets, vintage dusty bourbon, oak, and spice notes in droves. An amazing whiskey, up there with the best dusty bourbon profiles I've ever experienced.
Rating: A-

1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 17

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No Age Statement; 57% ABV; Lot 17.
Again like the lot 1, it's very dense with lots of high rye and vintage dusty bourbon notes. A little bit more of unpleasant acetone / burnt rubber note but you have to really reach for that. Again the taste is a super honey butterscotch bomb with a spicy rye finish. It's down a notch from the lot 1 and not quite as good as another 80s 114 I've sampled but it's a stellar whiskey in its own right. 
Rating: B+

When it comes to National Distillers, the 114s are my clear favorites. The proof really ramps up the sweet, spicy, and dusty notes to make these the most interesting to me. Not included here but the first National Distillers 114 I ever had was a 1982 Lot 9 (frontback) and it was even better than both of these with much more honey and way more intense dusty notes. I'm just going to assume better storage conditions on that bottle but you can't go wrong with any of them and it runs laps around the 114 on the shelf today.
Note that price is not considered when assigning a rating. 

Thursday, February 9, 2017

They Don't Make Them Like They Used To, Part 2: 1948 National Distillers Old Taylor 6 Year Bottled in Bond and 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 8 Year Bottled in Bond

This is part two of a three part series where I walk through a few different bottlings of vintage National Distillers bourbon to see what the fuss around them is all about. To recap, here is the full lineup:
  • 1986 National Distillers Bourbon deLuxe, NAS, 40%
  • 1989 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Red Shield, NAS, 43%
  • 1948 National Distillers Old Taylor Bottled in Bond, 6 years, 50%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond, 8 years, 50%
  • 1982 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 1, NAS, 57%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 17, NAS, 57%
Part One covered some rather low end bottom shelf bottles and the results were no better or worse than bourbons than you can find on the bottom shelf today. Both of those bottles were no age statement and proofed on the low side so we really shouldn't have expected much. The real hyped up National Distillers bottles though are the bottled in bond variants so let's find out what happens when you crank up the proof and slap an age statement on them.
Also worth mentioning again: With a lot of these old bourbons there is a familiarity to them - some combination of lush mouthfeel, older richer oak, and other notes that I can't really describe so I just end up calling it a dusty note. I don't literally mean it tastes like dust, I'm specifically referencing that familiar combo of attributes.
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1948 National Distillers Old Taylor Bottled in Bond

Aged 6 years; 50% ABV; Thanks to Beau for the sample.
The nose is out of this world funky and pungent - it barely smells like bourbon. As it opens up it starts to get more bourbon-ish qualities but it's a lot of wet hay, old wood, antiseptic, and old leather. I know those notes sound horrible but it's like watching a train wreck and I can't stop smelling it. The taste is just as randomly awkward with a lot of honey upfront and some old vintage bourbon notes. The finish is drying with ashy barrel char and some bitter acetone. I would have never guessed this was 100 proof as it drinks just as easy as the 80 proof deLuxe though it has more intensity. This is one of the more weird things I've ever drank and not in a good way as it's just a funky mess. 
Rating: As is, I give it an F. I have a good feeling this bottle is severely oxidized and not representative of other National Distillers bottles from this time so that rating is probably worthless.

1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond

Aged 8 years; 50% ABV; Thanks to Beau for the sample.
The nose is rich and dense with lots of dark burnt sugars and some tingly rye spices. It has that old bourbon smell that I really look for in vintage whiskeys. The taste is honey and butterscotch up front with a nice blast of dusty notes in the middle and a finish of rye baking spices. The rye spice is a bit more noticeable than in other National Distillers I've had and is masking that butterscotch forward note that usually dominates the taste. This is a fantastic whiskey that is well balanced in the sweet, oak, and spice category all while carrying that hallmark old bourbon taste. I can see why people go nuts over the age stated 100 proof National Distillers bottles from this era. 
Rating: A- / B+

Well, this was interesting and there are a couple of lessons learned here. First off, be careful when chasing some of these vintage dusties because you might get burned. I'm pretty sure the Old Taylor here has gone bad which is a shame because it's the oldest whiskey I've ever tasted and I was excited to try it. As for the 80s bonded Old Grand-Dad, it's a remarkable whiskey and one that I think is worthy of some hype. Having said that, like pretty much everything these days the secondary prices on it are completely wacked out on the value scale but we'll touch more on that in part three. Spoiler alert: I'm saving the best for last.
Note that price is not considered when assigning a rating.

Monday, February 6, 2017

They Don't Make Them Like They Used To, Part 1: 1986 National Distillers Bourbon deLuxe and 1989 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Red Shield

They don't make them like they used to.

I hate to be cliché but at this point in my bourbon adventures I've come to realize there is a lot of truth to that. That isn't to stay that bourbon made today isn't great, because a lot of it is. The more I branch out into vintage bourbons though the more I am fascinated by the taste profiles that while not necessarily better than stuff I can buy today, they can be vastly different and/or more interesting.
I'm not really sure why vintage stuff tastes the way it does but bourbon historian Michael Veach lays out some good theories in Old Bottle Bourbon Flavor. I think the answer is everything he's mentioned, including the bottle conditioning part. With a lot of these old bourbons there is a familiarity to them - some combination of lush mouthfeel, older richer oak, and other notes that I can't really describe so I just end up calling it a dusty note. I don't literally mean it tastes like dust, just that familiar combo and that's what I find that makes them so interesting.
Further down the unique profiles rabbit hole, some dusties have an even more specific calling card which brings us to National Distillers. Up until the late 80s when they were acquired by Jim Beam, National Distillers put out Old Taylor, Old Grand-Dad, Old Crow, and a few other bourbons. Before Beam took over and ruined them, those brands are well known for a very sweet, butterscotch forward profile. Up until recently I've only had the NAS 80 proof and NAS 86 proof expressions of National Distillers and while I agree they were butterscotch bombs, I felt they were all mostly one-trick ponies and rather boring. But what about higher proofs? Older vintages? Higher ages? Let's take a walk through 6 different bottlings to find out if ND dusties are really worth all the hype. The full lineup:
  • 1986 National Distillers Bourbon deLuxe, NAS, 40%
  • 1989 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Red Shield, NAS, 43%
  • 1948 National Distillers Old Taylor Bottled in Bond, 6 years, 50%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Bottled in Bond, 8 years, 50%
  • 1982 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 1, NAS, 57%
  • 1988 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad 114 Lot 17, NAS, 57%


1986 National Distillers Bourbon deLuxe

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No Age Statement; 40% ABV; Thanks to /u/harry_fjord for the sample. Note the picture is from Google search.
The nose is kind of thin with some butterscotch sweetness, dusty bourbon notes, and older oak. It smells richer and older than it should for an 80 proof no age statement whiskey. The nose is more impressive than the taste though. The palate entry is thin and the finish is almost nonexistent. The sweet notes from the nose are there as are faint traces of older whiskey but there is also some chemical varnish / acetone notes in the mix as well. If only the palate carried through as solid as the nose this could be great. As is, it's mildly interesting due to the faint dusty profile but it's not something I would care to have again.
Rating: D

1989 National Distillers Old Grand-Dad Red Shield

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No Age Statement; 43% ABV; Thanks to /u/flavorjunkie for the sample. Note the picture is from Google search.
Nose is a bit darker with caramelized sugars, toffee, and the hallmark butterscotch. It's still a little thin but more robust than the 80 proof deLuxe. I get some light rye in here as well but not really picking up on the dusty notes yet. The palate is super sweet and very caramel candy forward. The dusty old notes that I usually get in bourbons bottled before the 2000s are here but very, very faint. I will say this is the sweetest butterscotch/caramel bomb National Distillers whiskey I've had yet. The finish is a disappointment though as it's pretty weak. This is slightly interesting due to the classic National Distillers profile but like all the other ND whiskey I've had I'm left thinking how much better it would be with more proof.
Rating: C

So there you have it, all that glitters is not gold. These were bottom shelf turds back in the 80s and they are no better or worse than the stuff you can continue to find on the bottom shelf today. Hopefully things can only go up from here.
Note that price is not considered when assigning a rating. 

Friday, January 6, 2017

Old Grand-Dad 114 Review

2016 was a rough year for Beam fans. First the age statement was dropped from Knob Creek Small Batch. Then it was reported that Old Grand Dad 114 was being discontinued. Then an announcement that Booker's production would be decreasing from six to four batches per year along with a new $100 MSRP (an increase of about 65%). Not long after that Beam reversed course with a fluffball announcement stating MSRP would gradually rise to $100 in the near term and they are sorry that Booker's (a product that sits on shelves everywhere even at the current price) will be hard to find. While the Knob Creek and Old Grand-Dad announcements were met with grumbling, the Booker's news really set the internet over the edge with a lot of Fuck Beam comments. I love Booker's and understand it was in need of a price bump but that kind of full on ludicrous mode price hike left me holding my pitchfork and siding with the boycott crowd.
But because some men just like to watch the world burn, Old Grand-Dad 114 was voted as the January /r/bourbon community review. Sigh. I realize I am in the minority but I've never liked that product. On top of that I really didn't want to go there given the recent Beam shit show. Regardless, I'm compelled to participate so here goes with what is likely the last Beam product I will ever buy.
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No Age Statement; 57% ABV; $28
Nose: Ripe bananas, peanuts, some earthy funk, a torrent of ethanol, and a blast of rye spices. It breathes on the hot side and I would guess higher proof than 114. I'm sure the high rye mash spice is what is making this so aggressive but it feels ethanol heavy which really masks the traditional woody sweet notes I want.
Taste: Upfront is honey, some peanuts kind of like peanut butter crĂšme brĂ»lĂ©e, and a decent amount of oak depth. It's not overly young but it doesn't exactly taste mature either. The finish is a lot of hot angry spice that lingers forever. The spice is similar to cinnamon red hots which when combined with the ABV make for something like barrel proof Fireball "whisky". 
Thoughts: Something about the combo of Beam peanut funk, high proof, and angry spices doesn't sit well with me. The traditional sweet and complex fruity flavors that I love in bourbon are muted by those aforementioned notes so it just ends up a hot funky mess. In about the same price range, something like Old Weller Antique 107 walks all over this so I'm not sad to see this one go. Bye, Felicia ✌️. 
Rating: D+
Note that price is not considered when assigning a rating.

Monday, July 27, 2015

Bottled in Bond Bonanza (Reviews #100 - #110)

There’s a lot of negativity in the American Whiskey scene right now. The whiskey boom is in full swing with no end in sight. Distilleries are struggling to keep up with demand and as a result lots of products are now allocated, age statements are being dropped, and prices are rising. Yet despite all that, there is still one category of whiskey that nullifies each of those issues: Bottled in Bond.
Visit any decent liquor store and you’ll find swaths of bonded whiskey hiding on the bottom shelf in plain sight. Don’t let the bottom shelf status fool you though. The very nature of Bonded whiskey standards ensures a built in level of quality in age (4+ years), proof, and distillation that allow them to punch way above their weight class. The blue collar value proposition of it is the key to why I believe Bonded whiskey is America’s real gift to the alcohol world.
As such, I couldn’t think of a better way to celebrate 100 reviews than to shine a light on these (mostly) great whiskeys that you can find on shelves today for around $25 or less. Here is how I would rank them from first to last.
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1st: Heaven Hill Bottled in Bond

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Aged 6 years; $11; Distilled by Heaven Hill
One of many Heaven Hill products in this roundup that all derive from the same high corn mashbill. Unlike everything else in this series this bottle is the the only one that carries an age statement and is probably the oldest in the lineup. Like the Evan Williams and Old Heaven Hill it also claims to be charcoal filtered. I believe this is only distributed in Kentucky and Indiana which is a shame.
Nose: Nice balance of standard sweet oak flavors but nothing terribly exciting. The heat is very tempered.
Taste: Like the nose, a nice profile of the standard bourbon flavors you expect. Lots of sweet vanilla, a decent amount of oak, and only a little smoky bitterness. Any young corny notes have been pretty well smoothed out.
Thoughts: A solid, no bullshit, classical bourbon. At $11 this is probably the most impressive whiskey for the price I have ever encountered. This is an unbelievable value.
Rating: B / B-

2nd: Evan Williams Bottled in Bond

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No Age Statement; $15; Distilled by Heaven Hill
I reviewed this one before and quite liked it but I thought I should re-evaluate it with fresh eyes for this roundup. It’s another Heaven Hill product so I expect it to be similar to those but this one also claims charcoal filtering so there could be some subtle differences.
Nose: Nose is pretty plain much like the rest of the others. Standard fruity corn and sweet oak. The heat isn’t overly aggressive which is good.
Taste: Again fairly standard but slightly more refined than the rest of the pack. Like the Old Heaven Hill I suspect that is the charcoal filtering. It doesn’t necessarily taste much older but there is less bitterness and the sweetness shines through more.
Thoughts: I still like this as much as the first time I reviewed it and feel it stands out against everything else. It’s a tremendous value, I’m still shocked you can buy a whiskey this good for $15.
Rating: B-

3rd: Very Old Barton Bottled in Bond

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No Age Statement, $15, Distilled by Barton
One of the few non Heaven Hill Bonded bourbons available under $25. I previously reviewed this product and quite liked it however that review was for the age stated product. In a rather shitty move, Barton’s parent company Sazerac has since removed the words “aged” and “years” from the neck but left the number 6. It’s incredible deceptive but that’s a topic for another day.
Nose: Pretty standard nose of oak, sweet, corn, vanilla. A little bit of grapes and light antiseptic menthol notes.
Taste: A nice balanced standard bourbon profile - sweet, good amount of oak, and a slight spice bite. I think it has a little less bitter barrel char than I remember from the age stated product. Doesn’t taste noticeably younger than I remember the 6 year product but doesn’t taste noticeably older than the rest of the bottles either.
Thoughts: Nothing remarkable or standout here, just another classic bourbon. Magnificent value given the price. I haven’t had the age stated product in a while but I can’t really tell a significant decline in quality.
Rating: B-

4th: Old Fitzgerald Bottled in Bond

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No Age Statement; $15; Distilled by Heaven Hill
Another Heaven Hill product but unlike the other high corn mashbill bourbons in the lineup this one uses wheat instead of rye as the secondary flavoring grain. As far as I know this is the only Bottle in Bond wheated bourbon currently for sale. I’m not a huge fan of the older version of this from Heaven Hill (Very Special Old Fitzgerald 12 year) so I had some trepidations going into this bottle. I believe this is rather hard to find outside of Kentucky.
Nose: The nose has some softer sweetness to it compared to the rest of the lineup. Think fresh baked wheat bread or a hefeweizen beer with a little funk and some dusty cardboard.
Taste: A lot like the nose. Much softer taste profile than the rest of the whiskeys in this series. Has some of the cinnamon zip I get in other wheated bourbon products but it’s pretty tame. Fairly sweet with an average amount of wood complexity.
Thoughts: Sweet and soft like a good wheater should be. I think this is much better than the 12 year product and at less than half the price it’s a much better buy.
Rating: B-

5th: Rittenhouse 100

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No Age Statement; $27; Distilled by Heaven Hill
Rittenhouse is one of the most loved products under $30 that I can think of. It’s known for being something great to sip on but even more famous for making excellent cocktails. A lot of the reputation however was built during a time when distillation was being contracted out to Brown Forman. That’s certainly the era in which I grew to love Rittenhouse. There have been rumblings that the Heaven Hill distilled Rittenhouse isn’t quite as good.
Nose: Anise and menthol spice, stale rye bread, a little vanilla, and some oak. Heat is a little stronger than the rest of the pack.
Taste: Tastes a bit on the young side. I’m getting younger new mash corn and fruit notes like bananas. With that fruitiness there is some spice but it’s not heavy handed in the front or mid palate. It tastes more like high-rye bourbon than a low-rye rye until the finish which finally brings a bit more prickly rye spice to the party.
Thoughts: I think there is something to the notion that the old Brown Forman Rittenhouse was a little better. Another downside is the price on this just keeps going up. I remember when it was around $21 a bottle but now the average seems to be around $27. Having said that, it still makes excellent cocktails and is a staple in my manhattans and old fashioneds.
Rating: C+ / B-

6th: Old Heaven Hill Bottled in Bond

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No Age Statement, $11, Distilled by Heaven Hill
Not much interesting to note about this other than it’s one of quite a few 75/13/12 corn/rye/barley Bonded offerings from Heaven Hill. Like a couple of other bottles here the label claims it is charcoal filtered. On a positive side, it’s extremely cheap.
Nose: Smells a bit older than four years even though I doubt it is. There is surprising amount of wood complexity and some sugary caramel.
Taste: Much like the nose. There is more depth of wood and sweet notes than I expected again. I’m a little shocked at how refined this tastes as it seems older than I imagine it actually is. I suspect all of this is due to the charcoal filtering.
Thoughts: A very solid offering and a wonderful value given the price point. It’s not tremendously complex but I like it.
Rating: C+

UPDATE 8/1/2015: I have since learned that this product has been discontinued. Bummer.

7th: J.T.S. Brown

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No Age Statement, $11, Distilled by Heaven Hill
Not much to say about this other than it’s another Heaven Hill offering so it should taste a lot like the others. I don’t know about distribution but I think this is hard to find outside of Kentucky or Illinois.
Nose: Sweet, a little sourness, and some light spice.
Taste: Sweet and rye spice just like the nose but without the sour notes. There are some deeper wood and sweet notes on the back of the palate which is nice. Plenty of wood influence here.
Thoughts: It’s rather unmemorable but in this case that’s completely fine. It hits all the marks in the right places. Would make a fine daily sipper and the price is more than okay.
Rating: C+

8th: J.W. Dant

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No Age Statement; $14; Distilled by Heaven Hill
Dant gets a lot of love on the /r/bourbon network (like this and this) for being a trusty go-to. Having said that, it’s another offering from Heaven Hill so it it should be similar to those products if somewhat more widely available outside Kentucky than the others.
Nose: Slight pepper spice notes and a little bit of sourness like the JTS Brown.
Taste: Sweet up front, decent amount of oak, a little smoky bitter char on the back.
Thoughts: Like most other products in this roundup it’s not overly complex but it doesn’t really need to be. A well rounded, solid budget pour.
Rating: C+

9th: Old Grand-Dad Bonded

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No Age Statement, $17, Distilled by Beam
When the subject of a good value whiskey comes up, Old Grand-Dad is usually a popular suggestion. It has a higher rye content than all the other Bonded bourbons available so it serves a dual purpose as being good for cocktail duty as well.
Nose: Maple syrup and a fair amount of wood. A bit on the young side but not nearly as youthful as the standard Beam Bonded. Despite the high rye content I’m only getting a touch of spice notes.
Taste: Sweet, woody, and slightly spicy. Tastes a little young. There are some peanutty notes that are pretty common in Beam bourbons and sometimes referred to as Beam “funk”. The rye content is doing a good job of masking that funk with some nice spiciness.
Thoughts: I’m slowly coming around on some of the products in the Beam lineup and this is one of them. A fine pour and makes for a great base in a cocktail like an old fashioned.
Rating: C / C+

10th: Jim Beam Bonded

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No Age Statement, $22; Distilled by Beam
Jim Beam Bonded is a relatively new offering in the Beam lineup. It’s essentially a 100 proof version of the standard Beam white label.
Nose: Corn, decent amount of oak, sweet young fruits. Smells like it’s younger than four years old as there lots of young new make fruity mash flavors present.
Taste: Tastes a lot like it smells. It’s got a lot of youth to it like the raw mashed corn flavors haven’t smoothed out enough yet. It does have a sweetness to it and surprisingly I get less of the typical funky Beam nutty yeast notes than I expected. The finish has hints of a darker malty sweetness but it’s pretty faint.
Thoughts: I’m having a hard time getting past how young it tastes. Combine that with the higher price point compared to the rest of the lineup and this one is a hard sell if you have access to others in this list. If not this is still a decent enough whiskey and certainly a step up from the regular white label.
Rating: C

11th: Mellow Corn

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No Age Statement, $9; Distilled by Heaven Hill
Straight corn whiskey is interesting in that it has no requirement for aging in new oak barrels. As such, Mellow corn is aged for at least 4 years in second use barrels. This is immediately obvious from the color as it looks like a month old bourbon.
Nose: Mostly rubbing alcohol with a little bit of dried corn. Pretty thin on scents. Not much in the way of wood sugars / oak.
Taste: Tastes a little better than it smells. As expected the corn flavors are very dominate and the rubbing alcohol notes are still there, especially on the finish. There is some sweetness in the back of the palate, kind of like a corn taffy.
Thoughts: Really felt like I was taking one for the team including this in the roundup. It’s perhaps the most one dimensional whiskey I think I’ve ever tasted. It certainly is unique but I don’t know in a good way. On the flipside, it’s hard to be that negative when you consider a 750 will set you back less than $10.
Rating: D

As you can see there’s a lot of value to be had in these pours. Price isn’t really an indication of quality as the cheapest bourbon here actually ended up being my favorite. The middle of pack was really close - I would put JW Dant, Old Heaven Hill, and JTS Brown all about even. The only real downside about a lot of these is they are rather hard to find outside of the Kentucky area. Dant, Rittenhouse, and Old Grand-Dad are the exceptions to that and I think all fine offerings.
I hope I was able to do these great whiskeys some justice and convince anyone on the fence about them and give them a shot. Forget Pappy, save your money on a $14 bottle of Dant and enjoy other things beside chasing after insanely overhyped whiskey.